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PHIL SEYMOUR'S DATA RECORDS

COMPILED BY JIM FENTON
EDITED BY GEOFF POOLE


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The following data has been compiled by Jim Fenton from notebooks passed to him by Hilary Seymour.
Hilary's husband Phil Seymour, a friend of Jim's, passed away in the early 80s.
Phil was an avid railway enthusiast and similar to Jim,  made exhaustive notes of the railway trips he
took within our region.

The following data covers the period 1966 - 1968  when steam was fast disappearing from our railways and
is another unique record of what was happening to our railways at that time.

The data has been methodically compiled by Jim Fenton and I thank him for his effort and expertise.

I also thank Hilary Seymour for allowing us access to her late husband's notes.

I have found myself lost in memories as I went through the notes. I found the visit to Crewe in 1967,
Cashmore's scrapyard in Newport (1968), Woodham's yard at Barry Island (1968) and Phil's trip to Llandudno
in September (1968) fascinating reading.

So why don't you treat yourself to a trip back in time. Have a look at the cold engines awaiting
their fate at Cashmore's and Woodhams, have a wander around some of the top sheds in our region
and have a look at what steam was still working during this period.

This page is dedicated to the memory of Phil Seymour.

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1966 - 1968: TRAINSPOTTING OBSERVATIONS II by Jim Fenton.

The trainspotting observations below are those of a former work colleague, the late Phil Seymour. The records were passed on to me by Phil’s wife Hilary who thought that they were too important to be dispatched to the bin! What foresight!

Phil, as a boy, lived in Bebington on the Wirral, so although not entirely relevant to North Wales the records are geographically widespread and document the variety of motive power around England and Wales in the mid 60’s. The records are derived from four notebooks passed on to me, many of which unfortunately are not dated accurately. Much ‘detective work’ has been done via cross reference to Phil’s dated photographs in my possession and historical records of certain railtours.

It was interesting to discover that on 20th April 1968 while I stood on the platform at Poulton le Fylde photographing the Lancastrian No.  2 tour passing through, Phil was actually on the train! It was to be another c.12 years until our paths “crossed” again when we both worked for the same company!

Complete locospotting logs of selected days out are given below, but without specific locations of many observations. It provides, however, a taste of what was! Trainspotting logs are recorded consecutively in columns not rows.

Locomotive, DMU and EMU records from 1966

Visit to Crewe, 6th November, 1966


76095

D1685

92203

45273

D1110

12039

44684

D223

42616

D1943

90300

90409

D1111

D2722

45109

D236

D382

70051

45138

70014

70021

12047

70040

D1851

D383

D1943

D1513

90081

D1789

70000

44844

D213

12057

D1844

D1718

60007

D286

D1907

44761

D1848

12054

E3190

D1737

D371

Diesel(On)

D7398

44683

D335

D1839

44833

D1768

90650

D1771

D4111

45494

12025

D1696

E3141

D1668

90615

D8092

D1859

44689

D314

92120

Works(On)

D1504

60026

D1888

D1827

48767

D383

D1951

70007

D1786

D1500

D1993

D1843

45409

D1936

92160

92220

D324

D1847

D1109

D5140

45446

D216

D287

Lion

26023

D1637

D1747

45589

70039

D299

D4105

D1619

E3171

D1634

D1515

D383

48194

034

45048

D1105

26001

D1726

D8042

D1597

70038

D1107

92151

D1106

26029

D1634

D1579

D1949

78019

D302

44933

D8044

26009

D1795

D202

D1834

70018

D303

45000

D1617

D1857

D340

D1775

D1861

44863

D1936

D2236

D1520

D322

D323

D206

D1707

45308

D295

47658

60010

D1747

D1504

D5711

D216

43151

E3155

47649

E3032

D1906

D1737

D1981

5A(On)

92051

D269

45060

D348

E3104

E5024

D241

D2519

44765

E3010

D1965

D5709

71000

D1767

D5109

D2208

78059

D318

D1616

D1780

90622

D239

D5718

12005

45021

E3023

D1821

D1790

D8082

D1768

D316

D2518

43034

E3199

D233

D1753

26050

D1618

D1668

12040

70027

D1620

006

D3068

D1990

45512

D395

D2200

70024

D269

016

D1519

D1513

D8039

D1979

43052

48324

E3008

001

D1694

70021

D1768

D395

92108

45060

E3058

E3053

D1623

48744

Works(Off)

D8164

44832

45031

E3172

E3164

90625

92004

E3045

D1526

92154

45033

E3056

E3184

90396

44899

E3021

D1849

48205

44732

D314

E3063

D1593

D1768

E3024

D1863

73026

45038

D317

E3066

D1864

90362

E3036

D3799

48536

43024

D374

E3050

70006

90345

E3105

D2772

D2236

92094

D1848

E3027

45310

44665

E5024

D1784

44944

92014

D233

E3008

D1662

D1618

E3001

D324

48186

44298

D1821

12021

70017

90406

D202

D1733

92073

44833

D1816

E3109

45092

70018

E3034

E3039

78036

5A(Off)

D1845

E3088

90343

70017

E3098

D5704

78010

D1837

D1700

D1725

D5710

45269

E3004

D2202

44766

D1957

D1951

D1584

90281

D1763

D1108

D2900

44669

D1839

42616

Notes:

1) Pulled by 42616 from Rock Ferry to Chester and by D287 from Chester to Crewe.

2) Pulled by double-header D314 and D317 from Crewe to Chester. Pulled by 42616 from Chester to Rock Ferry.


Visit to Aintree (8L), November, 1966

M29289M

M28678M

M56236

12028

47566

46500

46502

M29131M

M29135M

M28313M

M50962

48340

47367

48600

48139

M29135M

M29132M

M28316M

M28337M

44858

44809

48421

8L(Off)

42133

M29841M

M29583M

M29564M

12006

44816

76049

M28356M

M28372M

M29880M

D2862

48301

45055

75061

M28330M

M28677M

M29559M

M28316M

D3870

D2556

48261

M29559M

M29283M

M28334M

M28362M

41244

D2553

D1950

M52076

M29278M

M29879M

8L(On)

41304

D2567

75043

M59808

M29709M

M28327M

46439

47327

D2552

75064

M50266

M29703M

M50953

46523

47444

48363

45147

M29583M

Notes:

1) Day trip from Rock Ferry to Aintree.

Visit to Birkenhead shed (8H), November, 1966


42942

92133

92011

92083

92021

92026

42133

42782

92131

92122

47447

92070

44963

92067

46437

92085

92120

92100

92089

92167

45436

92073

45302

92020

92203

45232

92152

45145

92084

92103

92086

D2219

92008

48208

92002

44842

92107

48204

42548

D2240

92029

92123

92157

48212

92090

92102

92046

D2235

92109

92112

92082

45285

42613

44900

92134

D2393

44812

42647

42727

42616

42606

92166

92105


Notes:

1) Interesting to compare the number of steam locomotives with a visit a year later on 4th November 1967.


Locomotive, DMU and EMU records from 1967

Visit to Patricroft (9H), Reddish (9C) and Edgeley (9B), 15th April 1967

M29135M

E56141

47201

73138

M79669

M51759

48474

48433

023

E50361

45263

73010

094

M51744

48639

47493

45282

M50584

73073

48609

E3087

26048

92011

47406

E3111

E59536

48282

73143

D5132

D77586

48182

47357

E3050

E51544

48549

48292

D3009

12024

48673

M56129

M51918

D285

73131

73050

D3851

D5706

48507

M50365

M51424

9H (0n)

73006

48775

9C(0n)

26030

45225

M51926

D4155

73097

73130

73000

M59405M

26006

44916

E59778

45307

45426

48770

73067

M59505M

9C(Off)

44867

E51974

E3125

73039

45200

73025

M59605M

9B(0n)

48345

E51953

44773

73158

82003

73126

M59602M

44868

92133

E51960

M51928

73071

82034

73133

M59502M

61994

48474

E3095

M52041

73144

82031

73034

M59402M

D2390

D350

E3154

46503

73159

82000

48214

M59408M

D3769

45071

035

47406

73127

48491

48453

M59508M

48161

45027

92069

47496

48700

48381

9H(Off)

M59608M

48626

48275

73158

73140

48749

45282

26052

E3198

92166

48124

48108

73137

27000

26026

45242

9B(Off)

12050

73128

48359

E3157

27006

44725

E3157

D3591

73096

73139

27001

26034

48373

021

44711

73035

73125

M59603M

26037

92112

E56114

45455

48636

73134

M59503M

26044

45596

E50388

73157

45193

73129

M59405M

D5191

70015

73157

73097

73075

73033

M79178

26000

70004

48301


Notes:

1) Trip from Rock Ferry via Lime Street to Manchester area sheds.

2) 61994 (3443) “The Great Marquess” was on shed at Stockport Edgeley to run the Epsom Railway Society LNER Preservation Tour on 16th April. 61994 ran from Stockport to Leeds via Blackburn, Burnley and Skipton. The tour originated at Euston and finished at Kings Cross.


Visit to Buxton (9L), April 1967

M51950

48327

46465

48204

48319

68006

M59139

M50483

M50429

48369

46402

46492

48495

48753

M50431


9L(0n)

48171

46484

46480

46485

9L(0ff)

45041


48190

48465

48552

48744

48376

M50433

M79964



Visit to Crewe, 27th May, 1967

016

D1517

D338

70045

44728

D3024

E3030

E3067

M56214

D8001

D3181

12082

45391

5B(Off)

45212

D236

M50627

E3127

E3194

D3799

44678

E3106

D1612

D3870

M52042

D3098

011

12092

44761

44911

D307

45231

M51924

D1859

D3083

48011

44843

Diesel(On)

D332

45407

E3053

D221

E3194

48460

45292

D223

011

48696

036

E3092

70005

43002

45005

D1856

D1638

E59777

48665

E3198

E3140

15000

44677

D313

E3102

E59773

48764

D1932

E3016

48351

48544

D343

D377

E51979

45420

D5086

D1956

45494

70031

D1943

D1688

E3126

45039

D230

D3866

45145

45186

D1845

E3179

E51962

44836

D5057

D1737

44907

44685

D5143

D235

E50374

48696

D1597

E3102

48474

44681

D5005

D230

028

44774

D1631

D1958

43034

92147

D1632

D5146

E3153

45231

D7583

E3077

43021

44812

12096

E3077

M29145M

D3794

45444

D1597

D2518

44779

D2519

D1940

D1944

48669

E3097

E3133

D2911

44737

D1635

D1838

D1954

D3866

D1619

E3098

D2909

45285

D1722

D1620

D1838

D2900

E3146

D308

D2913

45197

D1865

012

D370

D1631

D1859

D1673

D2907

44814

D1942

036

D1945

D338

D236

D1635

48505

D2911

D1633

D1865

M29824M

D1859

E3018

D1943

445021

D218

D2236

D2235

M28379M

D1861

D326

D223

48194

48502

D374

E3070

M29279M

007

D1647

D370

48559

45310

D1956

E3181

015

D1841

5B(On)

48449

44865

D218

E3091

E3002

D7587

48671

44765

45006

D308

E3082

E3022

D7595

70005

02162

44800

Diesel(Off)

E3126

E3115

E3053

44821

44681

48255

D5017

E3135

E3031

D1956

92204

92123

78036

D5014

D1631

D224

D1947

44766

44683

44860

D5015

D343

E3188

D326

45256

44718

47566

D1808

016

D8063

D7583

43024

45323

12063

D3467

15002

D8171

D214

45040

45328

45033

D1851

E3145

D1605

D255

71000

44831

92037

E3084

E3194

D1982

D1631

48705

45264

48531

D4110

E3002


Notes:

1) Day trip from Liverpool Lime Street to Crewe.

2) Pulled by E3053 from Lime Street to Crewe and returned behind E3067.


Visit to Derby (16C), 29th May, 1967

D42

10202

D7505

D3121

D5231

D2310

D7533

D7655

16C(On)

10203

15003

D144

D3090

D3587

D8198

D5258

D7539

10000

D110

D7539

D3852

D3570

D5201

D1710

D150

D38

D1663

D1748

D3864

D3792

D5296

16C(Off)

D3246

D121

D1879

D162

D8198

D5093

D7592

D47

D152

D150

D78

D5076

D3050

D5249

D133

D70

D8161

D1825

12059

D5235

D5257

D60

D5242

D8166

D96

D2382

12088

D2379

10201

D1789

D8148

12077

D2300

D8187

D7509



Visit to Crewe, 3rd June, 1967

M56499

D217

E3119

92123

45038

44860

E3152

D1708

027

D223

12062

48460

70028

15002

E3072

D255

E3175

D5141

D1954

92204

45139

47560

D1856

D378

NE51968

034

D220

45256

92208

D3864

D3181

D7578

012

011

12091

D3583

75071

5B(Off)

D1920

D296

M51421

D5091

D1939

75002

44896

Diesel(On)

D5009

D373

M56279

D1713

45212

43024

70047

D3247

E3073

D2722

M50972

E3090

45216

44907

45455

E3137

E3141

D1807

M56258

E3152

48018

45252

48559

E3113

E3109

D298

M56496

E3144

E3196

48011

48313

15000

E3020

D5091

M51916

E3107

D214

44821

45297

D1845

D1840

D5019

M51851

E3084

D220

71000

43007

D238

E3117

D1530

M59714

E3157

E3137

44684

45243

D229

D218

D1631

M59719

E3200

D3763

48705

43021

D326

D229

028

M51855

D1713

D1845

44765

48336

D1696

D1957

D1597

M51959

D1686

5B(On)

48278

45264

D308

70028

E3081

D176

D3181

M51104

48449

45391

D224

E3017

E3076

48258

E3091

D3113

43034

44761

D5012

D1637

D1688

45039

D1849

48100

45186

48458

D5143

040

D1723

016

E3106

D4112

45089

45395

D1847

D1837

E3128

45407

E3115

12052

44792

44681

D1853

D1631

D2743

44877

D3467

D4110

D2907

44685

D1838

D220

D2901

44950

D226

D3247

D2518

44774

D293

D218

E3057

92022

D255

12040

D2911

48018

D377

D3181

028

44950

D315

D3800

D2909

44779

D1855

D298

D4146

45311

D382

48351

D2913

44737

D1623

D1631

48365

45154

007

45040

D2518

45063

D2263

D1837

48304

D3857

D1809

44666

44934

45197

D5089

D27

45069

92050

D217

45466

44795

44812

D339

D1621

E3089

15002

D1686

48603

70005

44814

D1723

D382

E3067

D2900

E3025

48194

45353

48502

D1688

D315

E3145

E3109

45042

44683

44865

12091

D1950

D5021

D1853

70032

44843

45006

D2218

D1619

D1708

D326

45349

44680

44800

D1623

D218

D373

D1723

45494

45285

D222

D320

D223

D1939

D7581

92162

45310

92032

Diesel(Off)

D1837

D1530

D7596

43002

70035

78036

E3141

D1713


Notes:

1) Day trip from Lime Street to Crewe.

2) Pulled by E3090 from Lime Street to Crewe and returned behind E3128.


Visit to Port Sunlight, 12th July 1967

92047

48170

92166

M50412

44720

92086

M51203

M51198

M56107

92014

D332

M56110

M56339

M56331

M50532

D219

M56154

M50410

D5083

M51189

M56116

92011

M50399

D370



Notes:

1) Part of a morning spent on the station platform.


Visit to Liverpool Lime Street, 13th July, 1967

M29139M

030

M51926

M50257

M52044

E3104

M50403

M29828M

M29823M

E3166

M52044

M51925

M51926

Lime St.(Off)

M56106

M29151M

M28377M

M51911

M56492

M52040

M50625

M51203

M50438

M29878M

M28690M

E3169

M51908

NE51965

M56256

M56361

M29823M

M29146M

M29720M

M51927

007

NE51983

M56499

M50350

M28377M

M29822M

M29289M

M51849

D168

NE59774

M51914

M56105

M29134M

M28376M

M29142M

M59721

M52037

NE59771

E3107

M51188

M28378M

M29279M

Lime St.(On)

M59718

M51928

NE51972

M51908

M56353

M29142M

M29710M

M51910

E3136

M51421

NE51956

M56492

M50414

M29837M

M28688M

M56213

D4154

M56279

M51424

NE51953

M56103

M28381M

M29139M

029

D175

M50974

M56276

E3087

M56151

M29151M


Notes:

1) Travelled from Rock Ferry to Liverpool.


Visit to Bootle, 14th July, 1967

M28311M

M29872M

M29863M

M29896M

M28360M

M51928

M28357M

 

M29545M

M29877M

M29581M

M29588M

M29587M

M52037

M28354M

 

M26866M

M28323M

M28354M

M51927

M29865M

M28331M

M29581M

M28360M

M28339M

M28318M

M52042